Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby mattbird » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:35 pm

KevinC wrote:I'm currently considering giving them the Worthless Maggots special rule, which would mean you cannot score points for their standard.



I think this would be a mistake. It's a ridiculously fantastic ability that would raise eyebrows in a fan list. I already hate it in the bret list...
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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Border Reiver » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:39 pm

As a bret player I love it - makes taking those large groups of low WS, low Ld Men at Arms really worthwhile.

I've done one army where there wereonly two banners you could score points off of. People hated it, but only because one of those banners was the Banner of the Lady....
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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Larro » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:41 pm

mattbird wrote:I think this would be a mistake. It's a ridiculously fantastic ability that would raise eyebrows in a fan list. I already hate it in the bret list...


Don't Rabble already have this rule?

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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Larro » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:43 pm

Nevermind, I can see it was removed, and Rabble have animosity also.

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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Renufus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:03 pm

Larro wrote:Nevermind, I can see it was removed, and Rabble have animosity also.

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Not when there's a Hobgoblin model on the board (so usually always).
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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Larro » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:09 am

Can I ask what the proposed verdict is on these guys? So far, no one has explained why Hobgoblin Archers, already thought to be overpriced by some in the 5-point RH incarnations, are SIX points per model?

Additionally, there's been no reasonable answer regarding why Hobgobbos are 5 pts. when fully kitted out, a full point more than standard Gobbos, and bordering on the price of effective and non-Animous troops (Empire State troops, Bret MaAs, etc.).

Really, they're overpriced by 1 pt. across the board. I'd suggest 3 pts. for a Hobgobbo with Light Armor, +1 for Shield, OR simply just 4 pts. per model, with LA and Sh included.

Hobgobbo Archers at Unit Size 10+, 5 pts. per model.

Rabble still remain the cheaper alternative initially, and can have Animosity removed with the inclusion of a Hobgoblin model on the table, still keeping them plenty viable, while not forcing people to take them INSTEAD of Hobgobbos and their nearly-prohibitive point cost at the moment.

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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby mattbird » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:35 am

there's no proposed verdict yet. :ugeek:
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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Larro » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:53 am

I'd be lying if I said I expected anything less. :?

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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby mattbird » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:25 am

Kevin has a full-time job away from the computer, so is not able to work on the rules during his work week. Thank you for being so understanding.
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Re: Hobgoblin Warrior and Wolf Rider comments here

Postby Guy In Suit » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:44 am

4 pts. each with HW/S
Swap shield for bow for free
Add light armour +1 point

Done.
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