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NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:00 am
by -the black prince
seems a contradiction - but i quite like using metalic paints - and wondered if anyone had tried using NMM styles(earth-sky) using metal paints and how it worked out?

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:02 am
by -poffypoffa
A lot of people actually do this, Justin. It's kind of a hot technique.

I've tried it and haven't gotten it to look right yet, but it is tempting

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:59 am
by -dijinn
Ryan, got any links to examples of this technique?

I'm intrigued and thinking about how to go about doing it. The main problem I see with it, is that it's pretty difficult to get a nice smooth blend using metallic paints.

And using acrylic or inks to "shade" in the metallics looks just like that... shaded and dirty instead of a nice Sky/Earth look.

Definately willing to give it a shot though.
- J.

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:03 am
by -poffypoffa
Jin, I think K did it once. I'll post on the mini-painter boards

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:52 am
by -poffypoffa
Justin, this is cut directly from K's answer on the NYC Mini Painting Boards--

Hmm....
Most of the armor I do are in metallics, no?

Depends on what color you want.
I've done a good silver, blue, brass type. But everytime I do gold,
it doesn't look all that good to me. But then again, I never really
sat down and tried hard enough.

Quick rundown from dark to light:
Silver:
Vallejo Gunmetal Grey
Vallejo Oily Steel
GW chainmail
GW mithril

On all of these colors, layers needs washes of to help transitions
together. Sometimes placed to help between layers, sometimes over
all the layers.

Ex.
www.coolminiornot.com/pic...135b6e.jpg
www.coolminiornot.com/ind...ll&nm=none

Blue:
Vallejo Gunmetal Blue
Reaper Blue Steel
Reaper Cornflower (I think)
Reaper Frost
GW mithril

Ex.
www.coolminiornot.com/ind...ll&nm=none
(And I'll have to paint him up again for that other contest. Dammit)

Orange:
Reaper Fire Glow (I think)
Reaper Mandarin
Vallejo Old gold
Vallejo Gold
GW Mithril

Ex.
www.coolminiornot.com/ind...ll&nm=none
www.coolminiornot.com/ind...ll&nm=none
(This one I used washes instead of the reaper orange colors)


That's all I could think of now.

Does that help?
-K-

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:13 am
by -the black prince
thanks guys! :D it's great to know i stumbled blindly onto something hot - ouch! :eek

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:58 am
by -dijinn
Hmmm.... I don't know... I don't think it truly looks like sky-earth metallics. It still resembles "dirty" or shaded metallics.

I must give this idea some more thought.

- J.

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:39 am
by -Kamui K
Hah! SE metallics? Maybe. But to get metallics without that dirty look must be near impossible, no?
They look irregular and dirty cause of the specks of sparckles or whatever you call it.

I've seen a mini painted up in NMM to resemble metallic paint (beleive it or not) and it looked convincing.
Dammed if I remember the link tho.
But the other way around? Maybe alcohol metallics would have an easier job. I think the specks are finer in those. Or at least, more reflective.

But I could of sworn I've seen someone painted up a mini in SE with mettalics on CMoN. Unfortunately, I can't remember who or what mini. I just remember a shield.
:
Ask around the CMoN boards.
Good luck on your projects.

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:57 am
by warmongerclub
What exactly does sky-earth metallics mean?

Re: NMM using metals

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:17 pm
by -poffypoffa
Well, it's used in a couple of different ways. Truly, SENMM (sky-earth NMM) is a technique used to paint NMM to look like chrome. You actually paint the reflections of the earth and sky, along with the horizon line, based on how it would reflect off of the object. The spawn I painted use a version of SENMM (If I had gone all the way, I would have colored the ground reflection and the sky reflection differently).

However, some people use sky-earth to refer to any NMM technique that takes proper metallic reflection of the horizon into account. If you understand SENMM reflections, it makes it much easier to paint traditional NMM effects